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Comparison! NEX-7, E-P3 and X100 high ISO examples and crops+Photo Test
« เมื่อ: 16 ต.ค. 2011, 09:02 pm »
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Sony NEX-7, Olympus E-P3 and Fuji X100 High ISO Comparisons & more thoughts on the 7

Had about 40+ e-mails asking me for some high ISO last night so I figured I would throw something together quickly. I have had the NEX-7 for less than 24 hours and have taken about 40 shots with it outside of my house so far. Thats it. I shot it last night in the dark with the Zeiss 24 1.8 and wanted to see what kind of results I could get. I will post some of those later but for now I wanted to post some HIGH ISO comparison shots from these three cameras that I took this morning in my kitchen. These shots will be posted below but 1st I wanted to touch on some things with this camera.

Some more initial thoughts on the NEX-7

I noticed many have been complaining about the Zeiss 24 being so large. Well, it is but it really isn’t. A 24mm 1.8 lens of high quality has to be sort of large. Look at the Leica 24 Summilux which is MUCH larger than this Zeiss and has no AF built inside. Sure the Leica is 1.4 but this Zeiss is 1.8, still pretty fast. Also note that the NEX-7 and Zeiss 24 1.8 is about the same weight or a tad lighter than the Olympus E-P3 and Panaosnic 20 1.7. The lens is NOT heavy.

Things I have noticed while shooting the NEX-7 are that the E-P3 focuses faster but the X100 is slower than the 7. The EVF in the NEX is the best I have ever seen and the configurability of the NEX is amazing. If customizing is your thing, the 7 can do just about anything in that area. It can get a little intimidating and a couple times I wondered if Sony did not cram TOO much into the 7, but after some use I realized that like with any camera, once you set it, you can forget it. The 7 has all of the external controls you could ever need or ask for. It’s also very speedy to shoot. Aim, focus fire and it’s ready to go again. The X100 feels painfully slow in comparison.

Also, I have been getting requests to test loads of Leica lenses on this camera. All I can say to that is I will test what I have. I do not have wide angles or 90′s, can’t afford it! I will test what I can and will also shoot with the kit zoom as well. Another thing is about the size of the body itself. It is small but larger than the 5n (thankfully). It feels wonderful in the hand and the grip is just right. The camera is solid but light and it is not even close to DSLR size, even with the lens. The lenses for the NEX system can never be as small as the lenses for the Micro 4/3 system as the sensor is much larger than the Micro 4/3 sensor but Sony is aware of the desire for smaller lenses and are working on it. It is not as cut and dry as many think. As for a full frame sensor in a NEX, Sony said if they did that then they would have to make a whole new lens mount and it would not be the “E” mount. But they did say “anything is possible”. :)

HIGH ISO COMPARISONS:

Below are 100% crops from the NEX-7, X100 and E-P3 (cameras I have on hand right now)  6400. Noise reduction was set to low on the 7 and X100 and OFF on the Olympus. You can not turn it off on the 7, only set it to WEAK. ALL CAMERAS WERE SET TO F/2!

(had to remove the full size files due to site crashing…will post full samples in the full review which will be after my server upgrade).









It is interesting how each cameras metering exposed the scene. I set the lens for f/2 on each camera and let the camera choose the shutter speed. The NEX chose 1/2000, the X100 chose 1/640 and the E-P3 chose 1/1000! Very strange. Seeing that exposure can have an effect on the noise level we see I then did one more test and set each camera to f/2, ISO 6400 and 1/1000s as I found the Olympus to be the most accurate in regards to exposure. Why the Sony chose 1/2000 I have no idea as it seems a bit underexposed. The Fuji seemed to slightly go brighter at 640. Hmmmm.

So to be 100% fair, let’s see the crops at 6400, f/2, 1000s…






So the same result really. The E-P3 does the worst and that is just due to it’s smaller sensor. It can not keep up with the bigger APS-C cameras in the high ISO noise dept. Plain and simple. The NEX-7 does well but the X100 seems to have the finest and most film like grain of the bunch. Overall though, from what I saw shooting real images last night, the NEX-7 will have no problem shooting at 3200 or 6400 if needed. More to come…


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Re: Comparison! NEX-7, E-P3 and X100 high ISO examples and crops+Photo Test
« ตอบกลับ #1 เมื่อ: 16 ต.ค. 2011, 09:07 pm »
The Zeiss lens is a GEM. If you pre-ordered it rest easy, it is well worth it for this camera. The Sony 50 1.8 is also VERY nice from what I have seen so far but I have much more to shoot with the camera and lenses. I am going to challenge the camera with some indoor low light high ISO shooting and portraits this weekend as well as having it with me each and every day for the next couple of weeks.

The images below were my very 1st snaps with the camera and I will not be posting any more until my review, which will have all new images and photos and tests. To those asking me  to test everything under the sun, there is only so much I can do. I do not own any wide angle Leica lenses or 90mm Leica lenses so I can not test the wide angles from Leica on this camera just yet, but will do so in the future when I can gather a few wide angle Leica lenses. I do not own the NEX-5n but may be able to get one for a side by side by the time my review hits (actually, I will be getting one for a side by side). This camera does indeed feel “right” and the built in EVF makes all the difference in the world. When Sony told me they built this camera for the enthusiast, they were not joking. There is quite a bit more  to the NEX-7 that will be in my review so check back soon for that!

So far, so good but I have lots more to do with the NEX-7! I will be traveling the rest of the week and will be back home next week Tuesday. Updates during this time may be minimal but when I get back I will be hard at work compiling the review and doing some more side by sides.

Enjoy!

Below: Zeiss 24 1.8 – ISO 1250 at 1.8 – 1/60s


Below: Zeiss 24 1.8 at 1.8 – ISO 160 – Toy Camera mode – 1/60s


Below: Zeiss 24 1.8 at ISO 400 and 1.8 – 1/60s – High contrast B&W mode


Below: Zeiss 24 1.8 at f/4 and 1/4000s – Spot metered in full AZ sun


A crazy self portrait because I am a crazy kind of guy  :) 24 at 1.8 – High Contrast B&W mode.



ISO 1600 at 1.8 – 24mm – My son with his crazy big Nikon D2h – High contrast B&W mode


Leica 50 Summitar at F/2 – I have to say, shooting the NEX-7 and Ricoh GXR M A12 Module side by side, the Sony wins for usability, high ISO, and seems equal in IQ with less noise. Shooting M glass on the NEX is SO enjoyable due to the brilliant EVF and peaking. Both of which are better than the GXR. That is no question. But I will need to shoot much more to see the reality of the IQ difference and plan on doing so all weekend.





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Re: Comparison! NEX-7, E-P3 and X100 high ISO examples and crops+Photo Test
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